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quake.ie columns please stop cheating :(
 29/08/2001   please stop cheating :(825 views | 15 replies 
Bunny
Dave Wilson




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this is the story of about how my life got flipped turned upsidedown, no, its about something alot more serious, mquake.



why mquake is better

recording of games is automatic.

bright cheating skins are brighter in gl.

the gamma/contrast can adjusted easily.



but wait, theres more

there are a thousand little commands that just make everything simpler, teamplay commands, fps commands, you don't even need qizmo and it can help lower pl.



what about cl_fakebotshaft

yes, a common complaint...but what exactly is it? its a setting between 1 and 0, the closer to 1 you set it, the straighter your shaft will be...i have tried it and i don't like it, in fact most players dont like it after awhile because it doesnt really show you where your shaft is really hitting. it doesnt aim the shaft for you, its not an auto-aiming shaft. most players have cut the explosions out of quakeworld and replaced them with something smaller, a gunshot prehaps, simply because it helps them aim better, the big explosion clogs up your view whilst a nice small gunshot doesn't. it doesnt mean the explosion isn't there - likewise with the shaft, if you want it straight then set cl_fakeshaft 1 and it's straight, its not a cheat.



english players

if you entered the game on an english server with a client such as zquake or mquake in the late late nineties, you'd get alot of abuse and such sayings as - 'get out cheater' 'oh lol so that's why'...now things have moved on, you get a much more heartfelt sympathetic approach - 'please stop cheating :(' you can almost feel them crying for the shame of you having to cheat.

quite often the victim will ask how he was cheating? english people don't know the answer to this, they also don't want the demo of you beating them, nor a vouch from your legit cyberfriendz. this is going to happen in a quakeworld league that english people are playing in. there is a way to solve it.



solving it

everybody who plays records a demo, every single player. with mquake (tm) its automatic and with qizmo+quakeworld you just type '.er' (easyrecord) theres are rules for leagues, this could be a rule, everyone records a demo. there are two ways you or your clan could be cheating - 1/ by using a wallhack/aimbot; any decent player can spot any opponent using these, any hint of it and the demo can be asked for/uploaded for everyone to scutinize. 2/ by slipping incredibly good players into your team (dag, vana, dag, etc) in place of other weaker players. so suddenly someone not so good on the team starts playing extremely good or his team binds change, it'd be easy enough to spot and a demo can be asked for and looked at. the latter is the most common form of cheating and in any leagues that don't require everyone to record their games then it can happen unchecked. lets put a stop to this tomfoolery once and for all.



conclusion
...wrongful indecision







 
 

29/08/2001#1
nDPodgeen
dave lowry




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will mquake/zquake be allowed
 
 

29/08/2001#2
Zero
Ronan Condon


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Nice one Bunny,
Thats why MP wanted screenies and demos from the league, to make sure there was no cheating like that. A lot of teams didnt bother then putting up a demo. Next time round we will probably make it a rule that at least one demo from each team goes up for each game, or at a very minimum, the winning team's demo has to go up. (We don't really give a shit if the cheaters lose)

On the subject of MQuake, I have been talking to MP and MQuake IS going to be allowed for season 2 of the QuakeLords, with the condition being that it is launched with Qizmo the same way you would launch QWCL. (This can be done, I think Sam got it.)
ZQuake will NOT be allowed.
More details from MP closer to the time of season 2. We will be putting up a help section for QW to encourage more ppl to play and enjoy it.



 
 

29/08/2001#3
OverLord
Dave Woodlock



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I seriously doubt sam can do this.
 
 

29/08/2001#4
OverLord
Dave Woodlock



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We dont need Qizmo with MQuake.
Heres why...
MQuake is secure and all models used with MQuake are secure.

The source for MQuake is NOT publically available. Therefore its extremely hard to pretend to be a MQuake client. But IF it was done, Mquake has a built in f_version command just like Qizmo. When any player types f_version in the console, MQuake auto says f_version but unlike Qizmo adds a random 4 digit number after this. e.g. f_version 6894.
Each MQuake client uses this random 4 digit number to calculate a result using an encrypted algorithm in MQuake. All replies from ppl using MQuake should be identical.
If not its hacked.
Qizmo is NOT needed to secure MQuake.
MQuake also checks all models in the id1 folder and other folders that can be used, the command is f_modified. It checks all mdls, sounds and textures for cheats.
There are many other f_queries

For more info please read http://unspoken.ditt.as/salan/mqwcl/breadme.txt

Basically I think we need to educate ourselves on QW and Qizmo and MQuake before listening to other ppl who know very little about what they are talking about.
 
 

29/08/2001#5
Vinnit
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Not on the subject but does anyone else notice that glmqwcl looks shite compared to normal glqwcl? and i think it's easier to see fullbrights in glqwcl than glmqwcl, the gamma in just doesn't feel right
 
 

30/08/2001#6
Zero
Ronan Condon


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That must be ure config, because in my experience MQuake looks a hell of a lot better. Get my mquake cfg from here and have a look at it. It goes in ure qw/users folder so load up mquake and type "login zero".
 
 

30/08/2001#7
Drexciyian
X-101




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Isnt MQ banned from there league also?
 
 

30/08/2001#8
Bunny
Dave Wilson




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Yes MQ is banned from Smackdown

Quite simple, let them play MQ and 200 people will complain, ban MQ and 50 people will complain, its just maths. It be damn difficult to demo check that amount of players also.

 
 

30/08/2001#9
Vinnit
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zero that did the job, i wasn't changing the contrast along with the gamma. Is 2 the highest it goes? it's a little dark for my liking, i tried gl_gamma and gl_contrast 3 but it didnt' work.
 
 

31/08/2001#10
Zero
Ronan Condon


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theres gl_brightness aswell. I found that my settings look darker on other monitors, but sam's bright settings look darker on mine, so it depends.
 
 
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