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 24/06/2003   bot challenge5460 views | 6 replies 
Illkillya
James Galvin


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i know a few quake.ie readers were taking part in a dm6 bot challenge started by s1lence. i tried that one myself and it was long and boring and not very good. i went looking for a link to an old tourney run by french people which gave you a server batch file for a 1v4 vs ogc bots on ztn which i thought was quite good.. but could never find the link.

but quakenation have just posted about another french bots challenge, this time on pro-dm6. instead of 1v4 like last time, its now 1v12. definitely worth a try, it might be addictive, read the full details and download the server files from quaddenied.
 
 

24/06/2003 18:39#1
Illkillya
James Galvin


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Ranking is made on frag difference. If players are tied, the biggest frags for is taken in consideration
 
 

24/06/2003 18:49#2
saik
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1 it's for fun

2 you cant run a dedicated server with 12 bots and play quake 3 on the same machine unless your machine is faster than mine my 1400/256mb ram/gf3

3 why the hell do you have to run a dedicated server, it's for fun, if you use a listen server it works fine.

4 you have to go back through all the frags and subtract any telefrags from your score because they are "luck", whereas the bots teamkilling each other isnt luck? :|

the first one was class, this one wasnt thought through though.
 
 

25/06/2003 09:14#3
Dardoz
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sounds like utter rubbish
 
 

25/06/2003 17:55#4
Illkillya
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"1 it's for fun"
this does not make it crap.



"2 you cant run a dedicated server with 12 bots and play quake 3 on the same machine unless your machine is faster than mine my 1400/256mb ram/gf3

3 why the hell do you have to run a dedicated server, it's for fun, if you use a listen server it works fine."

I know feck all about q3 physics and stuff, but I know that dedicated servers are better than listen servers. My movement for one thing has always suffered on listen servers, and in order to practise trick jumps I have always had to connect to a local dedicated server.



"4 you have to go back through all the frags and subtract any telefrags from your score because they are "luck", whereas the bots teamkilling each other isnt luck? :|"

On a map with 13 players and <13 spawns, spawnfrags are luck, (i dont think theres any need to call it "luck"). It would be silly to count them. And no, bots teamkilling each other aren't luck, since it is your movement which causes bots to get in the way of each other and shoot each other.

"the first one was class, this one wasnt thought through though."
Considering how well done their ztn challenge was, I have faith in the organisers of this and I'm confident that the competition was thought through much more thoroughly than your post.

dardoz - the dm6 challenge that you did was utter rubbish.. partly because it was long and boring, but mostly imo because you are rewarded by being slow. What makes you think that this one sounds like utter rubbish?
 
 

25/06/2003 19:08#5
anonymous





it being fun was in relation to the dedicated server part, if it's for fun, why be so serious about having a dedicated server? i shouldn't have typed it twice, granted.
you can use 142 fps on a listen server to get the same physics. if you can't get 142 fps, you probably can't run a dedicated server and a listen server on the same machine. if people dont care about the possible effect of a listen server on aim, why shouldn't they be allowed both options, dedicated and listen?
with 13 bots on the relatively small pro-q3dm6 there are often situations you are unaware of a group of bots, or are focusing on another group, with so many sounds going off you can''t hear them either. So sometimes it's down to luck. Also the number of bots in the path of the bot who starts teamkilling is down to luck. The path the bots take around the map from their spawn isn't down to movement skill.
i'd say an equally minimal amount of thought went into both. change the map to pro6, tl 10, add 8 more bots / paste some irc blurt on quake.ie
//steak



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25/06/2003 19:25#6
Spaceman
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1. Killy could and would argue for Ireland on any subject with anyone for ever if need be.



2. Dan was only ever wrong once, when he thought he was wrong but actually turned out to be right!



3. I reserve the right to slap the above very hard and repeatedly on the back of the head until (a) they stop arguing or (b) they stop breathing.



4. Ther is no 4
 
 
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