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 25/01/2002   kray-zee848 views | 12 replies 
Zero
Ronan Condon


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tonight we play wales in our first game in the quakenation euroctf. we have played quite a few games, and however good or bad we are, i think as a team we function a lot better than we would have, say, a month ago. we played portugal there the other day, and whatever about beating them (blah they arent up to much), i noticed the team coming together a lot more, the attackers coordinating more like they should be, defence closing down invaders, and all the while us paying a lot more attention to the coach (and even the coach talks less bullshit and more relevant stuff now ). we'll see how we do now against wales, i'm gonna be in here in this fuckin office from 5 til 9 playing, fuckit, it's an important game.

where i am going with this column is this : somebody explain to me properly how to rail on the net. this is something has been bugging the fuck out of me for a long time now, since i started playing on the net. myself and bunny used to play lan duels in the gaff, havent since xmas coz his machine is gone, but on lan anyway, obviously there is no problem. what i mean is i hit 45-50% rail on lan, but i hit 4 or 5 rails in a game on a 50 ping. fair enough i dont fire the gun as much on the 50ping now that i have no confidence in it, but what i mean is that the reason i miss them is some setting i have. i don't mind missing shots, blah we all do it, some more than others, but what i mean is that i have the crosshair on the guy, i fire, i miss. below is a screenshot of a game i played yesterday or the day before.

that kinda explains the reverse of my problem, that there is a kill. i am firing the rail there, and the next frame has the guy dead. but i missed. at least according to my eyes i missed. now, simple question, when you lads are playing on the net, and you have your rail out, do you have to lead them all the time, guess where he's going to be? or will a simple timenudge do the trick?

 
 

25/01/2002#1
2fish
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use cl_timenudge -50 any time you play on a server with sv_fps 20 (basically all servers, even lan)

apart from that, yeah if you have a 50ms ping, you kindof have to guess where the enemy will be in 50ms and fire there, instead of aiming at the enemy, its a bit bollocks really
 
 

25/01/2002#2
2fish
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half the servers online have clueless admins who set maximum timenudge to -30 or whatever,
there is no reason to do this, q3 ignores timenudge setting below -50 anyway and treats it as -50,
but it means you have to check every time you join a server, and make sure youre on -50 timenudge
especially annoying since OSP retains your last timenudge value, so even though you execed your cfg after loading q3, it might go back to -30 when u connect to an osp server


 
 

25/01/2002#3
Zero
Ronan Condon


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yeah its bullshit, I mean u spend ages learning how to point dead on at the guy, and then play on the net and have to guess. gayness.
 
 

25/01/2002#4
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Eric Mooney


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I got used to -20 timenudge and sometimes more. If you go -50+ your effecting your 'real' aim too much imho. It does make a difference using TN on a 50+ ping.
 
 

25/01/2002#5
Crusader
James Eavis




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I don't use timenudge (hate the warping players) and what I aim at I hit. I've seen a few instances of ppl with timenudge having to aim behind other ppl to hit them, not sure if thats coincidence or a bug or what. I usually get 20-30% accuracy on rg (not great but better than the days I was pleased with double figures
 
 

25/01/2002#6
Zero
Ronan Condon


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I find that very strange cru. If I actually have the crosshair on a moving guy, I dont hit him. I have been talkin in irc to Koopa anyway, and got some settings off him so I'll give them a go.
 
 

25/01/2002#7
Vinnit
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i use timenudge -50 and aslong as my ping is 50/60 i hit what i aim at generally. My rail acc on lan however is way higher than on net, go figure
 
 

25/01/2002#8
M1ke
Michael Breen




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read the 155&Rising column on www.ukgamer.net , it's a fairly comprehensive explanation of the q3 netcode. To anyone using -50 timenudge now the new osp net code and the latest patches will fuck with yer aim bigtime. I'd recommend reading the article and then decide what's best. The column is good at letting you make which decision you're the most comfortbale with.

Online a lot of the time I can hit between 35-45% rg acc without any timenudge ... just really what you're comfortable with.
 
 

26/01/2002#9
Sky
Rick Walker




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I use -10tn in osp 1: any higher and things go really screwy. Make sure smoothclients is off too.

Basically, the way to get used to where the rail hits is play with it non-stop. I play BW CA using only rail and often use rail only in ctf.

After a while it just seems natural - reach out and touch someone stylee. With the exception of the arse-o-games on the euroctf server last night, my accs for the evening were 62, 46, 43, 43 over practices and the w2 game.

I do ping a fair bit lower than you tho.
 
 

26/01/2002#10
saik
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if you still dont get it after that, dial up on a modem, and figure out how to hit som1 with 250 ping - aim 10 feet ahead of them . go back to isdn and youre acc will be insane.
 
 

09/04/2003 01:25#11
anonymous





and which is the best???

anonymous
 

16/09/2003 03:28#12
anonymous





One question so with a 50 or 60 ping -50 timenudge is good, what if your ping is like 27 to 30 ping? should i use only -40 ??



butane
 
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