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19/11/2005 03:56

Dueling & maps

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Searrard GerW who? posts : 35 There are new maps coming to q4 at nearly 1 a fortnight (not counting remakes) Now there is a huge calling for a change to weapons such as the sg and rg and so on... but as I see it the original 1v1 maps in vanilla q4 are *broken* due to the lack of armour and MH, playing on these maps gives the rg & sg a distinct advantage as any sort of map control can be switched quite quickly.... The Fragging Yard1v1 is imho not a true *duel* map, the Lost Fleet Tourney map can give you some place to hide\run but it is still a nightmare for trying to hold map control, I dont thinks its big enough to add another YA... blip tourney1 I find is a great map for duels, and Galang looks very promising (except for 3 YA but its being tweaked) What I want to know is.... Will the leagues\community move towards these maps rather than trying to balance the weapons to favour the original q4 maps?

19/11/2005 11:58 #1 Illkillya James Galvin Entering a world of pain clan : fish heads posts : 892 site administrator ive donated to quake.ie! Seo is going to release a new version of bliptourney1 - I was testing the different versions with him last week, and it keeps getting better and better. Once its finally released, very soon I expect, it will be a very good map. As for the other maps and the "imbalance" - thats perfectly fine with me. I think people try too hard to create a balance, and 2 halves in a map, and control but not too much control, when in reality the best maps were designed by guys who had no idea how the gameplay would develop. If sg and rg are a distinct advantage - what exactly is wrong with that? If its difficult to keep map control on fleet... whats wrong with that? And if sg is so powerful, why does it matter that theres only 1 YA? On these maps with 1 YA, the armour is not the be all and end all, because one whack of a midrange sg and youre wishing you had never lost your positional advantage to go for this armour in the first place.

21/11/2005 21:37 #2 quetzal Ownerer. posts : 80 I agree. I dont know enough about quake2/3 so Ill stick to what I know... On dm4, the guy with lg and armour at center room is gonna own until hes knocked down slowly but surely by some 1337 move. Now it turns and the other guy takes his turn. This is how about 90% of dm4 matches have gone in the last 4 years at least. And yet its still the most popular played map in the british isles by far. My point is, map imbalance doesnt mean the games wont be great. The ability to spawnrape and whore weapons easily doesnt mean the other guy cant win. I think q4 has a while to go before we should start judging this sort of thing, its still in the baby stages imo.

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