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Ronan Condon
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| uh jesus i'm sick as a dog. too much drink and shit food for a fortnight or so does that to you.
so, we lost to bio the other night for a place in the eurocup. i think a lot of people expected us to go ballistic over losing it, but we aren't. like i said on the boards, we hate losing, as does anyone, but we aren't sore losers who will be bitter and make shitloads of excuses for it. bio played extremely well, we played extremely shit, and they deserved the win. the best on the server was probably jedi, who's practise since christmas has definitely paid off, he seemed to be on a "plateau" for ages, staying at the same level, but has improved a lot since.
i do however have to explain a few things about lan play and net play that i don't think most people understand. this isn't a list of excuses for the bio game, so no need for "sore loser" comments on this, it's more an answer to what mindphuck said on his column this morning:
mindphuck :as most of you already know, bio defeated nd in two straight matches on tuesday night. some thoughts : nd v bio games have previously resulted in nd winning. in the iq3cl, when the games were played on vishnu (local irish server), nd team dominated all their games. what i have always said and still say today is that net play is totally different from lan play. could i dare say thats one of the major factors they won all their games ?
being a mate of mps, i know what he says isn't a dig or anything, most of it makes a lot of sense, and what i'm saying here isn't a "fuck you", quite the opposite. i just think most people don't understand the main difference between lan and net q3.
technically, everybody now is an lpb, to the extent that we now have slpbs. in qw, lan play and lpb play were practically the same, because if you ran a win9x qw server, everyone got a 54 ping across the lan anyway. so for people who played regularly in ul, the translation to the net was easy. but, as anyone who made the trek to ul for team.ie can tell you, quake3 is a different story.
when we used go to ul, we'd start playing on the saturday afternoon, and nicky etc would have terrible problems getting used to the 50 ping, usually by sunday they were back to normal again. you know that ad on telly for the citroen i think it is, where that schiffer bitch is walking down a street filled with styrofoam, and all the cars are wading through it aswell? that's what it is like for the first 24hrs when you come off lan play and go to the net, it's like wading through porridge, you fire your gun, and after the gun has a smoke and a shite it decides to fire. it's horrible. but, after a while you get very used to it, and get almost up to full speed on it. two weeks ago, we went online on saturday and played a few games, took ages to get used to it, but on sunday when we went online, we boxed the shit out of loads of clans, it was mental, it was like playing normally, you just get used to it after a few hours, we were railing properly and the whole lot on the net. considering we have too few players to have wars on lan, and we play about an hour a day on average, with jay barely playing, and bunny never playing unless he's in ul, we were well chuffed. "wtf", who are they? easy.
a week of lan playing later and you are back to square one, going from net to lan is like two steps back for every step forward you take.
basically, for the first few hours you are on the net, you are playing at maybe 40% of what you can do on lan, for someone like jay (who's one of the best in this country without a doubt), putting him on the net is like pulling a boxer's nails out before a fight, it's terrible. according to the techies, your ping to a server in q3 is your dos ping, add a tiny bit to it, but that's basically what it is, so a ul guy playing on vishnu is playing on 5 to 6 times his normal ping, when a normal net player would rarely go over a factor of 2.
for the bio game we were pushing for vishnu. m1ke seemed to think we wanted vishnu because it was like lan to us, but it wasn't the reason, the reason we didn't want uk is because we were scared shitless of playing on a 50 ping without time to get used to it, and vishnu is the closest server to us. we were still going to be fucked on vishnu. what i'm saying is that we weren't trying to make it grossly unfair, from this end of things a 30 ping is grossly unfair to us. m1ke didn't seem to understand this, and showed his true colours with the torrent of abuse he threw at me on irc, it would annoy me only i had given a dose of it to him myself last week. but considering we had the place secured due to his tantrum, i'd have thought he'd have been some bit appreciative that we didn't say "no, fuck you, you ran off and left the spot open, we are going to take it now". we gave them the chance to play for the spot, they took it and beat us well, we were quite impressed despite being pissed off 
i do reckon we would have beaten them, and beaten them well if we had taken a day or so to get used to not being on lan, but that's our own fault for not being prepared. we shot ourselves in the foot by playing on short notice, but it means nothing, it was like when nd took the default on ps in the league, if you lose a game, it doesn't matter, part of being a good clan is being prepared, having your team, ensuring they are up to scratch etc etc.
so that's my point, vishnu isn't like lan to us, despite what ppl might think, it takes us hours to get used to even playing on vishnu, and for all our iqcl games, we played for hours beforehand so that we would be used to the ping. vishnu is a whore for us to play on, not to mention squashing 4 players thru a socks proxy to get to bw. nd didn't win the iq3cl by "lan"-playing on vishnu, we won it by being prepared for the net and the teams we beat, we beat on skill, not because of a gross advantage. as for lan, we are ten times better on lan, we are splitting our team in two for trinlan, and i think you'll see that both of these weaker teams will beat every other team there hands down, with the exception of ps.
cya there 
z.
(net team.ie update later today)
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