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10/07/2002

next big game????

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Jedi jedi posts : 240 administrator just thinking to my self, bored here in work. what will be irelands next big game be?. i know cs owns ireland at the moment but unfortunetly i missed the band wagon when that came along and i dont fancy starting it 2 years late tbh. like do we really have to wait for some big game to be released again, before the hype comes back into the quake community. like have a look around and what do you see. some players gone back to quakeworld. others giving up because they are bored with quake 3, etc. well i dont think that quake3 is a boring game at all tbh. i think what makes a game exciting or boring is the community not the actual game. imo whats creates a good game is large numbers of teams and good rivalry between teams. i only came onto the gaming scene at about year before quake3 arrived on the scene. at that time quakeworld was rocking, servers were full, the bitching on the boards was great to read and the buss was great. the same happened at the start of quake3. good healthy rivalry grew between teams, boards were hoping and we had close to 100 quake3 players in ireland. now you can nearly count them on 2 hands. so anyway gone off the subject a bit. why do we have to wait for doom3 to come along before we start the ball rolling again. why not just pick a game and all get envolved. i dont care whether its a first person shooter, rpg what ever. as long as you have large numbers envolved then theres always a good reason to have a big lan and an excuse to have a pissup. just an opinion. what you think and do you know of anygame that might get the buss going again?

10/07/2002 20:51 #1 Nexus Anger Management Tutor Fuck off clan : fish heads posts : 183 administrator Most Communitys have a common interest. U cant force ppl to like certain games just to revive the dwindling community . As for the Game, i play a few... QW Being the main one, Q3CTF would be the second, Just started playin Wolfenstein which is good and a bit of UT on the side . I heard Sof2 is a good one but ill wait and see.

11/07/2002 10:15 #2 Jay Dave Jeffreys posts : 178 I think a major reason for the dwindling number of players is because college connects have all been firewalled. If you think about it, when I was in college in UL, before they firewalled it, I'd say about 10 to 15% of Irish gamers were using the UL connect, probably the same goes for Trinity. It's just so much effort these days to get a good solid connection. Not everyone can afford ISDN, and those who can are working folk with jobs and more to do than sit play games all day. The sooner ADSL is available the better. That's the one thing that may help the Irish gaming community. Another thing would be the revival of the IGN, into a Barrysworld type set up. Even if we could set up a network under Barrysworld.ie, it would be great. We'd have the name and I'm sure some help from them to get going. One thing we can't survive without though is the backing from at least one ISP in ireland, be it Eircom or Esat.

11/07/2002 13:25 #3 Izer Grand_Izer posts : 22 Well there's always Cunterstrike 2...

11/07/2002 15:31 #4 Jedi jedi posts : 240 administrator Yeh you probably rigth about the connects Jeff. Things did seem to start to dwinle when the college connects got screwed up. Sonic sort that fire wall shit out .

11/07/2002 16:40 #5 saik mr.nobody posts : 242 as i arrived late on the q3 scene, sure i knew it was "dying" when i took it up. but arent these games always? Jay and Jedi, havent been around to the last lan in dublin, but at it there were at least 14 q3 players. not all of them "hardcore" or whatever but the game was played and enjoyed by all. afterwards there was talk of acid reforming, future lans etc. i see fh with a largish squad of active dedicated players, set out for q3ctf and tdm. i see nD about to win div2, most of the qw legends ready to kick ass. i see koopa's reaction to q3 on a decent setup.(fucking hell lads ) i see "nemesis" versus koopa the ultimate title fight. i forsee a pretty cool lan in waterford, even if the duel doesn't go ahead. the trash talk makes tyson/lewis look like a catfight. i see numerous demos up on quake.ie. i see tons of activity on quake.ie, posts, demos, updates columns etc.(maybe even iqool soon.. ). i see an adsl rollout. atm theres 20 or so activeish q3ers. not bad for a three? year old game. there's plenty of buzz in irish q3 atm! more can be done sure, like jay says. and there's still stuff worth complaining about (connects...) but it's still fucking cool

12/07/2002 20:11 #6 Kyro Aaron Bunyan posts : 7 Unreal Tourney2 will definatly be the next big game. They're treating the whole thing very much like a sports game. In the single player, you're able to buy players and set their positions (anyone remember speedball 2? ) It's only a matter of time before real players are bought and sold. I've played the early unreleased demo of ut2003, and despite lacking loads...the game looks great. Can't believe they're still using the original Unreal engine. The weapons are much more balanced...the rockets are way faster, but you can only stack up three at a time, and the shock rifles primary fire is quicker...but does less damage. and its hidden fire has been toned down greatly...no longer a one hit killer. The only reason people are still playing q3 and cs is because the majority of players don't bother upgrading their machines. CS is still gonna be popular for a few more years, because these people see no need to upgrade. So they wont be that many Ut2003 players, which is a shame... :(

12/07/2002 22:18 #7 Jay Dave Jeffreys posts : 178 You said "The only reason people are still playing q3 and cs is because the majority of players don't bother upgrading their machines.", well that's certainly not true for nearly all the members in nD. We have absolutely minimal interest in any other games except Q3 and Starcraft. It's just frustrating that the Quake community loses members to CS, and most newbies prefer CS because it is easier to get into. No Q3 newbie wants/likes to hop onto a Quake3 server and get beaten 50 - 0 by some veteran. They'd prefer to play something that they have more chance of winning in.

13/07/2002 01:42 #8 anonymous "Unreal Tourney2 will definatly be the next big game." "So they wont be that many Ut2003 players, which is a shame... :(" how big is big? contradictory i fink also "The only reason people are still playing q3 and cs is because the majority of players don't bother upgrading their machines. " really? news to me. actually it's not news, it's bullshit. the games are played because the players find them FUN. fun isnt measured in fps churned from a machine. if this were the case we'd be playing wolfenstein1. and if anything unreal based in the past is anything to go on, ut2k3 will be arse. anonymous

20/09/2002 05:33 #9 anonymous I'm from canada, all I can say is in the west, the same thing is happening. I'm hoping ut2k3 unites some of the fps community that has become to spread out over dwindling q3 and original ut players, and the millions of 13 year old cs players. -jac ne|jacanuck

20/09/2002 16:32 #10 gerry Philip Brennan posts : 57 Erm, why will ut2k3 be the next big thing? Apparently its not much more than a graphics update, and serious players are going to turn down any graphics options that get in the way very quickly. The rocket launcher is supposedly much better, I've played the game and it doesn't impress me very much. The crap physics and "feel" are still the same. What I mean by crap is that they don't make the game very fun to play. I don't see the point in moving to a new game if it isn't a patch on qw. Regarding college connections, well I'll have a pc all to myself in a lab in maynooth starting monday, its unfirewalled so I'll be playing plenty of quake. I'm trying to get some people in maynooth playing, but they won't be able to play quake3 online for a while. This is because they aren't fourth years, so they are on crap machines. They are playing qw on barrysworld though.

20/09/2002 16:41 #11 CPeS Carlos posts : 17 excellent, gerry ill be there (doin m.comp.sci) ill playin q3 and all that mebe ill start learnin qw too

20/09/2002 17:22 #12 gerry Philip Brennan posts : 57 give us a shout next week, me email addy is newfoundwealth@hotmail.com

20/09/2002 18:53 #13 [spectator] Laurent Humblet posts : 222 administrator I'm discovering it at the moment and the more I play, the more I like it. The strategy and tactics are good and you have to micro-manage your troops much faster than in Starcraft. I finished all the Blizzard games so far (WI, WII+ext, DI, DII+ext, Sc, ScBw) without playing "seriously" any of them but Warcraft looks really interesting to me and makes me want to spend a bit more time on it. That's for RTS. FPS: CS is a good game but I don't like it (personnal choice) I believe Doom 3 single player will scare the s#ite out of me but I think we'll have to wait Quake 4 before having a decent new multiplayer game. Although I enjoy playing RTCW in multiplayer (it is really good), it's still not the next level waited by the Q3 community as it's, again, much slower (it's not an insult, don't bite me). UT2003 will be played by UT players + ppl who wants to play an easy and fun game (again, this is not an insult) but I'm pretty sure it'll go into the shade once D3 and Q4 will be released.

21/09/2002 00:37 #14 Jedi jedi posts : 240 administrator UT will become the next big game. Due to be released fully by the end of next month. Mark my words. UT will take over quake3 very quickly when launched. The amount of learning in it is amasing. The tricks are endless. The weapon combinations are amasing and from what i've been seeing online the big names are already comming over. Mark my words.

21/09/2002 10:09 #15 anonymous ut might be a replacement for q3, but it wont be "the next big game" so far, the only "big" fps games have been quakeworld and counterstrike, and both have passed their peak (in terms of numbers playing) long ago people will play ut for competitions etc, but after a year i doubt anyone will play it except a small group of people who really like it whatever the next 'big' game is, it wont be a 1v1 game, because losing in 1v1 is not fun, unless youre trying to learn something, and it wont be a qwtdm/q3tdm style game where one team can totally lock out the enemy team, because, once again, losing is not fun when youre getting raped like that.. itll be more like a qwctf/q3ctf/counterstrike type game where you never really get smacked down qw style (because thats not fun for new people, the whole decline of qw started when people started beating people 40 - 0 in duels, instead of scores which reflected skills of both players more accurately, this meant new people couldnt see themselves improving because their score was still 40-0, so they stopped playing) the amount of learning in a game doesnt say shit for how long people will play it, in fact the more shit you have to "learn off" before you can play the game properly, the smaller the game will be fish(x2!)

21/09/2002 17:33 #16 [spectator] Laurent Humblet posts : 222 administrator Jedi: It's very possible that UT2k3 will take over the Q3 world, although I doubt it. Simply because Ultimate Toad 2003(1) doesn't "feel" right, physics wise. Now don't get me wrong, I enjoy playing it but I don't have the same fun as I had and still have with Q3. It's more a showoff game, something easy, fun and not too difficult to learn. Now, again, I can be wrong and I suppose you'll have to give it a good 6 month to see how the game does. Gayfish: I agree with you, there is nothing funny to get crushed in a 1v1 duel, like your firsts online ffa as a newbie aren't fun either, but I think it has nothing to do with the next big game. 1v1, CTF, TDM, etc... are just modes/options that you can play (I like the "soccer" game in UT2k3). The next big game will have to have all different kinds of modes by default. I say Doom3/Quake4 will be outstanding as it'll take all the good from all the games and multiplayer mode that have been released since Q3. (1) http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=227706

22/09/2002 22:08 #17 anonymous "gayfish" how witty, brought to you by mr. i-dont-know-when-to-shut-the-fuck-up--tator fish(x2!)

22/09/2002 23:51 #18 [spectator] Laurent Humblet posts : 222 administrator Sincerely.

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