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05/11/2003

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Zero Ronan Condon Absolute Fucking Champion clan : n8z posts : 816 site administrator a fine report up on quakenation by bigfoot about our near miss with the uk last night, have a read of it here and see if it annoys you as much as it does me. ehhh bif...."uk reserves" - are blokey jay and derf in the uk reserves? or is that just the word to use when the uk almost get beaten by a bunch of paddies? its up to ye lads to field a team, but when they are on the server they are the uk team, not the uk "reserves". "server.....it is understandable that the uk attackers would under perform in these circumstances." - as an oldskool player, im surprised you base your opinion of the server from what you could or couldnt see from gtv, that server is actually fine, just had a few glitches last night, which as far as i remember, affect not only the "uk reserve" who has the flag but also the irish "reserves" who are trying to kill him, that is of course, the three irish players using isdn, one of whom was dest, ireland's best attacker btw who would have been 10 times better if his cluck pc/isdn had let him stay on the server for more than 2 minutes at a time, not to mention us missing melachi, who is probably the best allround player ireland has. we can all make excuses. what's the smell in here? oh yeah it's bullshit. i'd like to see uk - ie on lan, it would be a lot different from the last time they met. fuck sake, if the 5 irish lads last night were bb, the uk team would have gone home in a box. so why can't you just do your "gg" and shut up about it and just accept that last night's game very nearly went the other way, and a little part of that might actually have been to do with the fact that our lads are fuckin good.

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05/11/2003 12:14 #1 raw chris cunt posts : 9 bigfoots had a stick up his arse regarding the uk team since it got picked, hes just putting down the team via you which is a bit gay really. Eitherway well played and gl in your future games.

05/11/2003 12:31 #2 Nemesis Simon Manners Hi I'm not gay :< posts : 13 Very strong play from EirE you lads taught the UK a lesson or two in being cocky and expecting an easy ride, and also Bigfoot degrading your perfromance by trying to imply that this UK team was the reserves was out of order.... WP LADS

05/11/2003 12:32 #3 dallow no posts : 4 ive been playing with irish isdners for a long time and they wud of been alot worse off than the uk boys (altho they may be used to it, still that dont matter). Although the team that was picked was abit dubious i wud of liked to of seen jay/blokey/dues/derfel/r2k or something like that. anyway..gg!

05/11/2003 13:31 #4 Illkillya James Galvin Entering a world of pain clan : fish heads posts : 892 site administrator ive donated to quake.ie! I agree Z, was going to do a column myself.. tbh its annoying. I dont doubt that the UK would have won much more comfortably with a better team - that excuse is very acceptable. I have no problem with people like dallow saying a team of jay/blokey/deus/r2k/derfel/sifer would have done a lot better because I agree with that. But to say it was a team of reserves with derfel/blokey/Jay playing is just bigfoot at his best. Looking at the screenshots on clanbase, the pings were equal so the server was fair - ya derfel had 60 ping but sno had 70 or 300 at times and he was by far the worst pinger. bigfoot complained about lag despite not even playing, hes assuming that games2.iol.ie follows in the footsteps of traditional Irish servers which were shit.. but for once thanks to Ronin and Rev and them we have a really good server hosted by ESAT which has great routing to all UK ISPs (the dozens of Uk players who have played there in the past couple of weeks with team.ie and FH will confirm that, just look at ntl flamey's 22ms ping), we had 2 minor stutters over 3 maps, which lasted a split second as admin eri rightly pointed out, and were probably caused by punkbuster. Compare this to performance of Barrysworld League servers and it goes to show what a muppet bigfoot can be at times. Saying the UK 'almost lost a cap' due to a lag stutter is stupid, given that their only cap on the first game of w2 was when sno had 300 ping and failed to kill their flag carrier because of it. If that game had finished 0-0 and we had gone on to win the second map 2-1 then Ireland would have won the game in 2 maps - I think we have a much better cause for complaint here. And if I were malc i would be equally pissed off at bigfoot's comments regarding team selection. imo the only criticism malc deserves is for choosing w2 as their home map which seemed kind of arrogant to me seeing as w2 has always been Ireland's home map. Why would they play us on the only map we're good at when they would have easily won on cp9?

05/11/2003 14:21 #5 anonymous the servers are crap, ive played duels on them a few times and wont play on them again, the ping spikes all the time, u get bursts of lag, it seems lagged all the time, for eg. rail seems to go through people, lg seems lagged and a water gun would be more effective at times anonymous

05/11/2003 14:42 #6 Zero Ronan Condon Absolute Fucking Champion clan : n8z posts : 816 site administrator ..you are just really bad. We have new servers since about a month ago, of course if you were able to put your nick to your comments we would know if you were actually ever on them at all. idiot.

05/11/2003 15:28 #7 Nemesis Simon Manners Hi I'm not gay :< posts : 13 Some "Whine" with that meal sir ? Pld EIRE

05/11/2003 15:38 #8 anonymous ive been on servers in the past month, and they are still as fucking shit as they used to be anonymous

05/11/2003 15:47 #9 raw chris cunt posts : 9 is mke

11/05/2003 16:59 #10 MindPhuck Eric Mooney Im drinking stuff donated to quake.ie clan : n8z posts : 1267 site owner Whats wrong with you? did your wee ping go over 10ms, did you feel a likkle lagged?? did your ms colour go green instead of white??, did you felt like you couldnt rail ? oh wait, could you rail in the first place? Poor lad, now run along there and post something more usefull like midget animal p0rn than the garbage your spouting. I don't respond nicely to those who havnt even got the balls to post their nicks.

11/05/2003 17:25 #11 anonymous we had 3 on isdn and our 2 broadbanders are living in england so dont give me any crap about us having any kind of connection advantage, if anything it was the other way around vinnit

11/05/2003 18:19 #12 anonymous Perhaps those of you playing in the game didn't have the advantage of watching from GTV but the server did look a shocker (worse than BW ones imo) and there were clearly times when Derfel and FT didn't look like they were able to move / fight as they intended to. The difference there is that you Irish ISDN lads are used to playing on not great connections, they aren't but did so (I presume) in order to make sure you had at least a fighting chance as playing on any UK server would probably have seen them win very comfortably. When two of your three attackers are struggling with such issues, the other being not a first choice, it was always going to be hard for the UK to do much as an attacking force and I don't think it is a surprise that after nearly an hour of playing the UK finally got their act together in terms of capping. You want to dress this up as a great Irish performance you do that but the fact is the team you played against contained 1 first choice UK player on each map, blokey - blokey - jay. Killy, the server may be fine for certain ISPs but I can tell you from watching FT and Derfel that it certainly didn't appear fine for them. bigfoot

11/05/2003 18:32 #13 Illkillya James Galvin Entering a world of pain clan : fish heads posts : 892 site administrator ive donated to quake.ie! it doesnt matter if they were playing on slightly higher ping than what they were used to, that is the nature of clanbase. We must find a fair server - it is true that the ISDN players are more used to playing on that ping, but that means nothing because in Clanbase you must play on fair pings. If you were playing Finland on a Danish server and you have two people playing on 60 ping it is not something you can moan about if finland have identical pings to you, especially if Finland have a player hitting 300 ping at crucial moments. If we had played on any UK server we would have had a vast ping disadvantage, which is not supposed to be in Clanbase, so speculation over the result in such a situation is pointless. Don't act like UK were doing us a favour by playing on .ie server just to give us a chance, an admin was present in the server search and HE decided that we must play on games2.iol.ie because pings were fairer. I certainly don't want to dress this up as a great Irish performance.. it was a team which had never played together before, I know I personally played very badly and made a lot of errors, Vincent hadn't touched q3 in over a week since he didnt intend to be playing on 64k ISDN, sno's connect was woeful and dest had PC problems and couldn't even play on the third map. This was far below our potential, so we're not looking for praise. However, neither would I expect such a pathetic whinge as front page news on QN written by someone who should know better.

11/05/2003 18:39 #14 Rapier Rapp clan : n8z posts : 278 administrator all this shit about uk not having a full team.........we didnt either. ive only seen kazz hanging around team.ie 1-2 weeks, never even played with sno, the other 3 lads that pld yeah they are regulars (2 isdn), next time we play UK, we will have 5 broadbanders and can play on deep fucking space nine for all i give a fuck. benders

11/05/2003 19:08 #15 anonymous From what I read you tried a UK server and the pings were more or less even, in part due to the fact you too were fielding UK players, but then it was decided to go for an Irish server. In all matches the majority of players were from the UK, personally I don't think it makes much sense to then use a server out of the UK but that is Clanbase for you. I guess if you honestly believe playing all 3 games on a server in your own country is fair for an international match then there isn't much point aruging with you as that is some fucked up logic right there. And that isn't to say I don't respect Irish Quake, I supported you when you won a big QW LAN over here in Scotland a few years back and if you read my review of this seasons CTF league (when it is posted) you'll see I've been very positive about FH. My point is that there were all sorts of shit wrong with this game from a UK point of view and if it happens again then other teams with less issues of their own will take advantage. bigfoot

11/05/2003 19:21 #16 MindPhuck Eric Mooney Im drinking stuff donated to quake.ie clan : n8z posts : 1267 site owner Biffy, now I do have respect for you and what you have done for quake, both for the UK and internationally, but now your logic is pretty much up your arse. Its called ClanBase.. fair servers, even pings and fair play and all that. If you dont understand that logic then really, you should just give up. If you doubt our ability and you think you would have beasted us better with a better team/server, then we will gladly hand your asses to you on a lan. Cmon so, we'll set up the LAN over here, you get your team over, we will put your team up for the weekend, feed em, get them drunk, etc. we'll play some games, go on the piss and perhaps I might gain a little respect back for someone whos bitter about alot of things from what I can see. All we asked is not to be put down in the fashion you have done on quakenation, credit where is due and all that. however you pretty much belittled a few good matches between two national countries. Anyway, I dont give a shit what you say now, everyone else saw it on GTV and know we gave you lot a run for your money.

11/05/2003 19:25 #17 The_Stranger Malcolm posts : 17 They are mine! Malc PS tho I do like the sound of a LAN in dublin if I could afford it!

11/05/2003 19:30 #18 Zero Ronan Condon Absolute Fucking Champion clan : n8z posts : 816 site administrator we arent trying to start a big slagging match or whatever. And that is the reason I put this on my shitty little Quake.ie column, as against your completely opinionated news post on the front page of Q-nation. But to be perfectly honest, we all have some reasonable kind of intelligence here and what you are saying is 90% total bollocks. It doesn't matter what country the server sits in, it's all about ping times, or in this case, a mix of ping and bandwidth. I get 50ping on the irish server on cable (because of routing), and I have a way better connect than the irish isdners on the same server with the same ping, and you know this as well as anybody else so I dont know why you are pretending you dont. And the admin has the final call on it, and he chose the irish server, and he is generally an extremely fair admin, so I think im really just going to disregard what you are saying about the server because be honest, we both know you are talking shite. About the teams, we are well happy with the lads performance last night, people like Dest/Vin/Killy/Sno (Div 3 BW CTF players) on ISDN put up a savage performance alongside Kazz(rusty) and Anarchy(fuckin legend) and showed that little nerds in their bedrooms in Ireland are every bit as effective as little nerds in England in theirs. But like Killy said, we arent trying to dress it up as a savage Irish performance against a full strength UK team, for the simple reason that we too were far from having a full strength team out. That said, I know a lot of people under-rate the Irish team because we are all aware that with the exception of a few "shining performances" (rapture bwec etc), the Irish team has always been shite. Well it's not now, and I for one am looking forward to the next time Ireland meet the UK, so lets leave it there, and we'll hopefully see you lads on lan sometime soon.

11/05/2003 20:31 #19 Nexus Anger Management Tutor Fuck off clan : fish heads posts : 183 administrator They still cant get over us beatin them in the finals in qw of that 4 nations thingie. GET OVER IT!

11/05/2003 20:37 #20 anonymous indeed Zero sorry i'll fix it immediatly :/ kazztje

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